How do I locate Vatican I's citation of Lateran IV?
score:1
If we see the Latin text of Vatican I Dei Filius document, the reference is a little different: "Conc. Later. IV c. Firmiter". Firmiter actually refers to the first Latin word of Canon 1 of the 1215 Lateran Council IV document in Latin:
Firmiter credimus et simpliciter confitemur quod unus solus est verus Deus æternus et immensus omnipotens incommutabilis incomprehensibilis et ineffabilis Pater et Filius et Spiritus Sanctus tres quidem personæ sed una essentia substantia seu natura simplex omnino. ...
It's possible that the English translation of Vatican I Dei Filius hosted by the inters.org website refers to Canon 1 (Confession of Faith) sentence #2 rather than Canon 2 (On the error of abbot Joachim) and Canon 5 (The dignity of the patriarchal sees). (See suggested English titles of the canons from an English translation of the Lateran IV document hosted by the Documenta Catholica Omnia website).
Going back to the English translation of the Lateran IV document you used from Fordham University, Canon 1 sentence #2 is (I bolded the quote from Vatican I):
The Father begetting, the Son begotten, and the Holy Ghost proceeding; consubstantial and coequal, co-omnipotent and coeternal, the one principle of the universe, Creator of all things invisible and visible, spiritual and corporeal, who from the beginning of time and by His omnipotent power made from nothing creatures both spiritual and corporeal, angelic, namely, and mundane, and then human, as it were, common, composed of spirit and body.
while sentence #5 is about Jesus:
Who according to His divinity is immortal and impassable, according to His humanity was made passable and mortal, suffered on the cross for the salvation of the human race, and being dead descended into hell, rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven.
Compare Canon 1 sentence #2 with the quotation in the Vatican I Dei Filius paragraph:
This sole true God by His goodness and "omnipotent power," not to increase His own beatitude, and not to add to, but to manifest His perfection by the blessings which He bestows on creatures, with most free volition, "immediately from the beginning of time fashioned each creature out of nothing, spiritual and corporeal, namely angelic and mundane; and then the human creation, common as it were, composed of both spirit and body"
To compare the quote in Latin, please see Geremia's answer.
Upvote:2
The Latin of that passage from Dei Filius ch. 1 is:
Hic solus verus Deus bonitate sua et ["]omnipotenti virtute["] non ad augendam suam beatitudinem, nec ad acquirendam, sed ad manifestandam perfectionem suam per bona, quæ creaturis impertitur, liberrimo consilio ["]simul ab initio temporis utramque de nihilo condidit creaturam, spiritualem et corporalem, angelicam videlicet et mundanam, ac deinde humanam quasi communem ex spiritu et corpore constitutam.["]
I've added quotation marks corresponding to those in the translation you cited.
It corresponds to Canon 1 of Lateran IV's Firmiter:
- Firmiter credimus, et simpliciter confitemur, quod unus solus est verus Deus, æternus, et immensus, omnipotens, incommutabilis, incomprehensibilis et ineffabilis, Pater, et Filius, et Spiritus Sanctus; tres quidem personæ, sed una essentia, substantia, seu natura simplex omnino. Pater a nullo, Filius autem a solo Patre, ac Spiritus Sanctus ab utroque pariter, absque initio semper et fine. Pater generans, Filius nascens, et Spiritus Sanctus procedens; consubstantiales et coæquales, coomnipotentes et coæterni, unum universorum principium, creator omnium invisibilium et visibilium, spiritualium et corporalium, qui sua omnipotenti virtute [almighty power] simul ab initio temporis utramque de nihilo condidit creaturam, spiritualem et corporalem, angelicam videlicet et mundanam, ac deinde humanam, quasi communem ex spiritu et corpore constitutam [created out of nothing, from the very first beginning of time, both the spiritual and the corporeal creature, to wit, the angelical and the mundane, and afterwards the human creature, as partaking, in a sense, of both, consisting of spirit and of body.]. Diabolus enim et dæmones alii, a Deo quidem natura creati sunt boni, sed ipsi per se facti sunt mali; h*m* vero diaboli suggestione peccavit.
Latin from: H. J. Schroeder, O.P., Disciplinary Decrees of the General Councils: Text, Translation and Commentary, p. 560.
English translation from: Cdl. Manning's translation of Dei Filius
Who knows why your cited translation of Dei Filius cites Lateran IV canons 2 and 5 there.
Update: dott.sa Giulia Capasso, Responsabile della Segreteria di Redazione, has corrected it:
We have checked the exact quote and have changed the quotation in [Lateran Council IV, ch. 1].
More post
- 📝 When was infant baptism rejected in the development of Pentecostalism?
- 📝 Is denying Christ under the threat of death not a mortal sin?
- 📝 How is the Vulgate rendering of Romans 5:12 explained (Roman Catholic perspective)?
- 📝 How do the rites for a first and second marriage (after death of a spouse) differ in the Orthodox Church?
- 📝 Are there any non-pacifist traditions that object to military chaplaincy?
- 📝 How does a baptismal certificate work?
- 📝 Why would the baptismal state of a spouse be relevant to whether someone can be confirmed in the Catholic Church?
- 📝 Church Giving to the Poor
- 📝 How does the doctrine of the URC differ from its predecessors?
- 📝 Does "fasting" bring a Christian closer to God?
- 📝 Why did G.K. Chesterton convert to Catholicism?
- 📝 What issues do Catholics representing God in fiction historically face?
- 📝 How to teach Christianity to an ESL junior high school student who knows nothing about Christianity?
- 📝 Did the early church condemn the teaching that God the Father is a person with a body living in space somewhere?
- 📝 What feast is mentioned in John 5:1?
- 📝 Indication of the possibility to discern the spirit of a man by/without listening to his words
- 📝 Is the al-Hallaj of the Yazidi religion Jesus?
- 📝 How is 2 Thessalonians 1:9 understood by those who believe that Hell is eternal conscious torment?
- 📝 Why is Song of Songs not considered p**nography?
- 📝 What are the Presbyterian denominations in England?
- 📝 Can the Pope be excommunicated?
- 📝 What do Jehovah's Witnesses believe about evolution?
- 📝 Lot's virgin daughters had husbands?
- 📝 In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, what is an Elder's Quorum meeting supposed to be?
- 📝 Who says, "If you are going to Heaven, you will know it"?
- 📝 Why aren't there any examples of a child or teen conversion in the NT?
- 📝 Did church fathers ever deal with "Bible requires brutality" critics?
- 📝 Is it OK to pray any five decades of the Rosary or do they have to be in the specific set of mysteries?
- 📝 Why did Christianity survive at all?
- 📝 When were the early Christians no longer considered a sect of Judaism?
Source: stackoverflow.com
Search Posts
Related post
- 📝 How do I locate Vatican I's citation of Lateran IV?
- 📝 How did the second Vatican council (aka Vatican II) address the concept of limbo?
- 📝 How were the Vatican I and Vatican II councils related?
- 📝 How do sedevacantists who claim the See has been empty since Vatican II understand the legitimacy of the bishops and priests?
- 📝 How were people saved prior to 33 AD?
- 📝 How is Christ's death so significant?
- 📝 How do young earth creationists reconcile the age of the universe with the speed of light, and visible distant objects?
- 📝 How to answer "Why do evil and suffering exist?"
- 📝 How did all the animals fit into Noah's ark?
- 📝 How is the Christian Jesus different from the Muslim Jesus?
- 📝 How were the books of the New Testament chosen?
- 📝 If the Ten Commandments say “thou shalt not kill” how can a Christian fight in a war?
- 📝 How long was Jesus in the tomb?
- 📝 How can the Son not know what the Father knows?
- 📝 How do Christians understand the omniscience of God in relation to the Uncertainty Principle?
- 📝 How is ignoring clear Biblical instructions in Leviticus justified?
- 📝 How is Jesus not lying in John 7?
- 📝 How can the sun be created after day and night?
- 📝 How do traditional Christians defend the teaching that Paul is an authentic apostle?
- 📝 How can we trust the Bible after it has been translated to another language?
- 📝 How do Mormons interpret the warning in Revelation about adding to the book?
- 📝 How can one overcome lustful desires?
- 📝 How did Judas die?
- 📝 How could Jacob wrestle with God if no one can see God and live?
- 📝 How could Jesus be born during the reign of Herod, and when Quirinius was governor of Syria, if those periods were not contemporary?
- 📝 How do Christians in support of gay marriage interpret anti-gay Bible verses?
- 📝 How do Catholics justify confessing to a priest?
- 📝 How does current Church of England polity compare with Richard Hooker's teaching?
- 📝 For Catholics who object to Vatican II, what are the key issues?
- 📝 How should I understand the emphasis on "begotten, not made" in the Nicene Creed?