Are these Red Army uniforms authentic?
Upvote:7
Some more pictures:
No, it is not from WWII. It's from 1920, Petrograd.
You can see the five-pointed star.
Artillery man with 5-pointed star
Cavalry men.
Red hussars:
Artillery men with 5-pointed stars:
Upvote:23
Yes, these are authentic cadette uniforms. But note that 1 is "standard", while 2 and 3 are "parade" variants.
No 1. is a kind of standard infantry uniform which had a little changes from WW1 to WW2. The most controversial part is, probably, a side cap, as you see it usually only in WW2 chronicles. It was adopted as a part of Red Army infantry uniform only in 1935. Yet especially for the cadettes, the side caps were approved much earlier.
"The Red Сadettes-artillerists of First Cavalry Army, 1920"
From Alexander Deryabin "The Civil War in Russia, 1917-1922. The Red Army"
Another points to watch in the first picture are Mosin-Nagant rifle which dates back to 1891 (but was still in use in WW2), and скатка (i.e. rolled overcoat). Both show that this soldier, for sure, is an infantryman. Unfortunately, that also means that we can't see what his overcoat looks like.
No 2. is a parade uniform of artillerists. Look at the shako, it was a part of dress uniform only. Except the red stars, it was borrowed from Tsarist army too. The inscription mentions "The chief of 2nd Petrograd Soviet artillery courses 1918-1922", although this name was in use only in 1920-1921. This is the same as Mikhailovskaya Military Artillery Academy which was founded in 1701 by Peter I and exists until nowadays. Here is a picture of its cadettes parading in 1918 (btw. it makes obvious why the artillerists had sabers and spurs ;-)):
"The cadettes on parade, 1918" From Alumni club of Kolomenskoye (Mikhaylovskoye) Artillery School
The chief of the Academy in 1919-1923 was General S.G. Petrovich. The insignia on the sleeve - three red squares - shows the rank of Комбат (i.e. Batallion Commander, close to Major or Lieutenant Colonel), since at that time there were no "standard" officer ranks in the RKKA (and even the word officer was replaced by commander). But I'm not sure, if former tsarist army General Petrovich actually had the rank of Комбат in RKKA around 1920.
No 3. is a parade cavalry uniform (actually, Uhlan dress uniform). The inscription mentions "1st Tver commander courses". These courses were based on Tver cavalry junker school, and the uniform remained the same. Here is a photo dated 1914 from Wiki:
"The Tver cavalry school. Sword belts-cadets Petrov Feodor. 1914" Wikimedia Commons
BTW. This school still works too: Zhukov Air and Space Defense Academy
More post
- 📝 When did blade fuller appear?
- 📝 Were there any abolitionists imprisoned for being critical of the Congress or the President during the American Civil War?
- 📝 What was the purpose of the breastplate rings on samurai armor?
- 📝 Why did Paul von Hindenburg wrongly call Adolf Hitler "Bohemian corporal"?
- 📝 What happened to Iraq's debts after the US toppled the government in 2003?
- 📝 Tricolore: Why have the colors been chosen that way?
- 📝 Based on his service record, where was this soldier deployed in WW2?
- 📝 What was the procedure for prosecuting criminals in England between the World Wars?
- 📝 How did Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor come to control part of Spain?
- 📝 Why was Seattle chosen for the site of Expo 62?
- 📝 Did it matter that the Red Army clung on to Stalingrad's West bank in 1942?
- 📝 Did "el Empecinado" fight in the Siege of Ciudad Rodrigo (1810)?
- 📝 What was the social and cultural role of a "country squire" in Victorian/Edwardian England?
- 📝 Did the Romans see Africa as a black continent? Was there a perception of a divide between Africa and Europe?
- 📝 Are there pictures expressing anti-occupation sentiment directed at British Forces in Germany before 1990?
- 📝 Did non-Indians go into Indian Territory (now Oklahoma)?
- 📝 When and where was rape first criminalised independently from adultery?
- 📝 Is there a genetic link between North America and Vikings?
- 📝 How (and why) did Hitler create "the world's largest traffic jam?"
- 📝 Which Nazi functionary is shown here?
- 📝 Why are there holidays marking VE/VJ/Armistice Day in different cultures, while many other wars aren't commemorated at their conclusion?
- 📝 How widespread was practice of fusion of Graeco-Roman and barbarian names?
- 📝 Are Ashkenazi Jews decendants of Khazars? Was there a mass conversion of Khazars to Judaism?
- 📝 Is there any speech dialogue on record on Palestine independence day given by the Great Britain Prime minister?
- 📝 Where do all the bullet casings after a war end up?
- 📝 Why did Prithvi Raj Chouhan allow Muhammad Ghori to flee?
- 📝 Why was Abane Ramdane killed?
- 📝 Why didn't Eisenhower personally sign Act of Military Surrender in Reims, 1945?
- 📝 Hitler's Religion or Atheism
- 📝 Were Soviets invited to the Marshall Islands to observe the first hydrogen bomb detonations?
Source: stackoverflow.com
Search Posts
Related post
- 📝 Are these Red Army uniforms authentic?
- 📝 Who are these red flag worshipers from these early maps?
- 📝 What are these hats and the function of those wearing them (worn by the Russian imperial army at Borodino)?
- 📝 Which military uniforms are shown in these photos?
- 📝 Why did the Red Army change uniforms in 1943?
- 📝 Are these uniforms credible for American sailors just after WW2?
- 📝 Why are military uniforms often flared or poofy above the knee?
- 📝 When did horseback riding start? Are Doosheh cave petroglyphs authentic and correctly dated?
- 📝 Why was the Red Army successful against the Japanese in 1939 but perform poorly against Finland 1939-40 and early part of WW2?
- 📝 Why did Stalin push for the Great Purge against the Red Army in 1936?
- 📝 What are these historical references (from a novel)?
- 📝 Did the poor performance of the Red Army in the Winter War significantly contribute to German underestimation of the USSR's military capacity?
- 📝 Who are these people in this satirical cartoon of the Congress of Verona?
- 📝 Where on a modern map are these areas of Ptolemy's map?
- 📝 What uniform are these gentlemen wearing?
- 📝 Any information about the photo with Army Uniforms
- 📝 What size are these mosaics of Justinian and Theodora?
- 📝 Did the Red Army and German Army clash in Poland in 1939?
- 📝 Cryptography used by Red Army in Polish-Bolshevik war
- 📝 Are these remarks by Napoleon on Jesus genuine?
- 📝 What are the dates of these panoramas of Paris?
- 📝 Why are some Pharaohs depicted wearing the red or the white crowns even after the unification of Egypt?
- 📝 Did it matter that the Red Army clung on to Stalingrad's West bank in 1942?
- 📝 What are the red and white sectors of The Tower of Babel (Rotterdam)?
- 📝 Are these Polish WWI or WW2 uniforms? And any idea on the shorter gentleman's military decoration (cross?) on left shoulder?
- 📝 Participation of Jewish Red Army Soldiers in Rape/Atrocities in Germany?
- 📝 What are these items in this 16th century plan of an English town?
- 📝 What flag are the men in these photos flying?
- 📝 Which of these quotes are actually Einstein's (if any)?
- 📝 On the Ezana Stone, who are the black and red people that the Ethiopian king was referring to?