View of Thervada and Mahayana Buddhism on where Conciousness is located

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Ultimatley views are wrong views. They are made up by us and thus are not the focus of getting to the root of truth. Behind both Theravada and Mahayana views is a common aim that discovers that consciousness happens moment by moment. That it has anything to do with the brain isn't admitted of by non-conseptual, non-materialistic, experiencial present moment by present moment reality.

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This is a question that modern scientists and quantum physicists are unable to answer. If you ask your family doctor, he would probably say that in medical college the subject of the location of consciousness was never discussed. Alan Watts, used to say that people think that consciousness is located between the two ears! This is indeed a difficult question to answer, without a proper foundation in the Higher Doctrine of Buddhism. The Buddha said that Consciousness along with 52 x Mental Phenomena and 28 x Material Phenomena are primarily responsible for the ''creation'' of the world around us. Therefore, one could argue that Consciousness is ''God'' the Creator. This subject has been discussed by Bhikkhu Bodhi, on utube, over many years commencing in 2013, in his Abhidhamma Retreats, conducted in New York. He also recommends reading material in support of the workshop. Suggest you turn to the workshop for guidance.

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According to Abhidhamma...

The consciousness can arise everywhere in alive body.

There are 6 types of consciousness arising locations.

  1. Eye sense location
  2. Ear sense location
  3. Nose sense location
  4. Tongue sense location
  5. Body sense location
  6. Bhavaṇga-Consciousness-sense-location, Mano-sense-location.

Body sense locations are locating everywhere, so the Body Consciousness can locate everywhere as well.

There are 6 types of consciousness arising form-location as well. Mano-sense-location, Bhavaṇga-Consciousness-sense-location, is not Hadaya-form-location, HadayaVatthu. See the explanation below.

The Actual Abhidhamma

ManoViññāṇa, Thinking, must arise at Mano-sense-location, Bhavaṇga-Consciousness-sense-location. Mano-sense-location often arising at the heart, Hadaya Vatthu, so ManoViññāṇa often arise at the heart as well. (Saṅgaha Chapter 3; Chapter 7)

  1. Manāyatana - There is no special organ for the mind like the physical organs. By mind-sphere is meant the 'adverting consciousness' (manodvārāvajjana) together with the preceding 'arrest bhavanga' (bhavangupaccheda). See Chapter 1.

The Bhavaṇga-Consciousness is Mano-sense-location, of ManoViññāṇa by Anantara-Paccaya, Proximity/Contiguity condition, because ManoViññāṇa can't arise without arising and vanishing before of the Bhavaṇga-Consciousness. (AbhidhammaPitaka Paṭṭhānuddesa Anatarapaccaya Uddesa; Saṅgaha Chapter 8)

Eye-consciousness-element, CakkhuViññāṇa, and its associated phenomena are related to mind-element, Mano, and associated phenomena by contiguity condition. Mind-element, Mano, and its associated phenomena are related to mind-consciousness-element, , ManoViññāṇa, and its associated phenomena by contiguity condition.

However, sometime ManoViññāṇa is arising at Mano-sense-location but not arising at the heart (HA), e.g. in Arūpa-Brahmma-Bhumi--Formless-sphere or heart surgery, so Hadaya-Vatthu is not IndriyaPaccaya, but the other sense locations are IndriyaPaccaya (AbhidhammaPitaka Vibhanga; Saṅgaha Chapter 3; Saṅgaha Chapter 5; Saṅgaha Chapter 7; Saṅgaha Chapter 8).

All these, too, (94) are found in the Sense-sphere. But in the Form-sphere three bases - nose, tongue, and body - are not found (96). In the Formless-sphere no base (96) exists.

and there is no HadayaVatthu in 20 IndriyaPaccaya ...

  1. Eye, 2. Ear, 3. Nose, 4. Tongue, 5. Body, 6. Vitality, 7. Mind, 8. Happiness, 9. Pain, 10. Pleasure, 11. Displeasure, 12. Equanimity, 13. Confidence, 14. Effort, 15. Mindfulness, 16. Concentration, 17. Wisdom, 18. The thought, "I will realize the unknown", 19. Highest Realization, 20. The faculty of the person who has fully realized

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In actual buddhist practice of mindfulness, it isnt difficult at all to experience that the mind isnt in the brain. Just notice when you are lost in thought often, and then pay attention to the body walking or moving and you'll see the body and all of its parts, including the gewy stuff in the head, isn't you.

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According to buddhism, consciousness (vinnana) are characterized as originating from the ayatanas, our senses (eyes, ears, nose, tongue, touch, and mind).

Even though there needs to be a physiological base for our consciousness, there are more prerequisites for consciousness to establish itself, meaning that it emerges in the mind when any of these six different senses makes contact with external sense objects (for example ear - sound).

In other words, it's not until internal sense bases "contacts" with external sense objects that consciousness manifests itself through declarative cognitions.

According to the buddhist concept of dependent origination, to define consciousness therefore isn't just a matter of where it might be localized, there also has to be cognitions/perceptions in order to properly determine what it is.

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