Can I make a leisure trip to California (vacation) in the current covid-19 situation as of 2021, will my quarantine be monitored?

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No. You legally cannot do this right now

As of today, San Diego is under a regional stay-at-home order, which means that travelers must quarantine after arrival before they go anywhere else in the state.

This is laid out in an information page breaking out stay-at-home orders by region. San Diego is in the Southern California region, marked as being subject to a stay-at-home order right now.

The regional stay-at-home orders impose a variety of restrictions, and the one most relevant to your question is item 3:

  1. Except as otherwise required by law, no hotel or lodging entity in California shall accept or honor out of state reservations for non-essential travel, unless the reservation is for at least the minimum time period required for quarantine and the persons identified in the reservation will quarantine in the hotel or lodging entity until after that time period has expired.

This doesn't guarantee that a hotel will not take your reservation for a three-day stay, but it does mean that a hotel will be breaking the law by doing so. Even if a hotel does take a reservation for your proposed three-day visit, that does not protect you from consequences for any laws you may be breaking yourself.

You can't camp either:

g. To promote and protect the physical and mental well-being of people in California, outdoor recreation facilities may continue to operate. Those facilities may not sell food or drink for on-site consumption. Overnight stays at campgrounds are not permitted

Exploring San Diego is also a pretty clear violation of the stay-at-home orders.

The relevant laws under which the order was issued are listed there as well:

10.This order is issued pursuant to Health and Safety Code sections 120125, 120130(c), 120135, 120140, 120145, 120175,120195 and 131080; EO N-60-20, N-25-20, and other authority provided for under the Emergency Services Act; and other applicable law.

Conditions might loosen, even relatively soon (though I wouldn't bet on it). I don't know when the Southern California region's stay-at-home order began, so it's possible that it could expire in the near-to-moderate future. Calling the California Department of Public Health (CDPH) could get you more information (though they won't be open today, as you discovered, due to it being a holiday). But for right now the answer to whether or not you can travel there for a leisure vacation is an unambiguous "no".

If you choose to travel to California anyhow, and refuse to quarantine, you may or may not be caught

It's obviously not impossible to break the law without being caught. If monitoring of travelers is lax, it's entirely possible that you could violate the restrictions without immediate consequence. Monitoring could also be retrospective: you're unlikely to be able to get a hotel room without a credit card, for example, and so there would be a record of where you stayed and for how long. An airline would certainly have records of your flights.

A question on Law.SE can get you better answers about how the current COVID restrictions are actually applied, and what risks you may face (if any) from different approaches to your proposed vacation. I have found many posters there with deep knowledge of legal situations in specific states, and they can probably get you very precise information, from a legal perspective, on what you're asking.

You would be putting yourself and others at risk by traveling to California right now

I'm not interested in giving a full explanation of absolute and relative risks here, so I'll give a quick summary instead: CA has one of the worst COVID outbreaks in the country right now. If you are infected and contagious while there, you could make that problem worse by infecting California residents. If you are injured, or become sick with something (COVID or otherwise) and require an ICU bed, you will be taking up scarce resources which the entire stay-at-home order is meant to preserve for California residents.

Finally, traveling to a place where COVID transmission is rampant increases the likelihood that you will become infected while there and then you could bring the disease back to your home, potentially causing (or exacerbating) the COVID situation there.

To head off any "but I'll be careful while there"-style arguments, intending to travel to CA right now and not only specifically not quarantine but also explore the city strongly suggests that you will not, in fact, be sufficiently careful. If you're willing to disregard the laws and guidance around out-of-state travel simply due to restlessness and being tired of Winter, it suggests that you might be a bit loose with other guidelines as well.

I sympathize. Really, I do-- I'd love to travel right now. My grandmother's funeral is this Saturday, and I won't be able to be there due to travel restrictions. But the restrictions exist to limit the spread of COVID, as well as the consequences of rising infection rates.

This is one of the most dangerous times during the entire pandemic to travel within the US, especially by air, and California is one of the most dangerous places in the US that you could travel to (as far as COVID is concerned). If you really fell you must travel somewhere in the immediate future, finding someplace you could drive to that is suffering a less intense outbreak is a much safer and more defensible option.

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Knowing the st.exchange crowd, I know I am going to get negative votes for this but going to answer it myself anyways as that was the reason I asked this question.

Yes, you can go on leisure trip to California or any other place in the current covid-19 situation, your trip will most likely never be monitored. There is no such system in place yet where they will ask you, where are you going and where will you be staying? Such law enforcement are just never in place and everyone is supposed to observe it on honary basis. So even though there is 14 day mandatary quarantine in place, you can still go on leisure trip within the country, but one thing you will notice, your trip will not be much fun.

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One thing you will notice, your trip will not be much fun esp the travel part, everyone will be wearing the masks and you will come in close contacts with other people (unavoidable) so the danger of spreading covid is real there (to yourself and to others) so it is best to avoid such trips. But once you arrive at your hotel, things would be very much like normal. I did travel and the hotel I stayed in was serving hot breakfast, with everyone still wearing mask all the time except when eating.

Note that you will not be able to get a hotel room directly from the hotel website, because they have mandatory 14 day minimum stay policy hence you will only be using third party websites such as kayak, priceline etc or you can get a travel package from costco etc.

other recommendation is, avoid travelling on long weekends during pandemic, because the plans will be really fully booked, and you will be uncomfortably setting close to each other. The car rental and air fair will also be high, so I would recommend to travel on a normal day just to avoid congestion and be more safe.

Again it is not best to travel and best practice is to be safe at home but then we do go out every day and one get tired staying in same place so if you do decide to travel for some reason, you should be able to without much problems, but it will take some fun from your travel.

Edit: A friend of mine went on honeymoon for 8 days to California, without any problem so really you can go anywhere if you want to. It is just the risk that you take, which is up to you.

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The only sensible way to tour California now during the covid19 shutdown is to do it virtually. Find videos that show the places you would visit and watch them instead of taking time money effort and risk to go their physically.

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Rent an RV and drive it to the Carolina coast

Since OP's goal is to get some sun, I am proposing a closer destination on the US East Cost. I am not proposing to drive to California. "Carolina" is a pair of states a bit north of Florida.

It's a 13 hour drive. "Oh, that's so much longer than a flight" No it's not. I've crossed the country plenty of times. If you're honest about the "all-in" time from your driveway to the other driveway, it's about 13 hours from Boston to San Diego.

So "drive time" is a wash.

So what are the advantages of the RV?

  • It totally eliminates a whole bunch of close contact other than sitting in the airplane proper... including queuing for baggage check, queueing for TSA security, waiting at the airport (which evidence is showing is a real problem), taking public transport within the airport site, waiting at the rental agency -- all places with no consequence for mask non-compliance, so off come the masks and you have a "super-spreader" event.
  • It's wheels, directly, which means you can simply go from your driveway to wherever you want to go. The only place you have to stop is gas stations, and having recently crossed the country that way, this can be done contactless if you use a credit card to buy your gas.
  • It's easier to roam and explore non-urban destinations, such as a remote beach or trailhead, since you're not forced to be near airports. Getting "out in the country" simply means less contact with people and gives you vastly better choice of safe activities. (and who's kidding who, they're on your bucket list anyway!)
  • Carry your own food, so no restaurants. You provision your RV at the start of your trip. If anything comes up, simply do "curbside" at a big-box store where you're already set up. I did exactly that on my recent trip, and it was effortless and instant. (at Target, which really has their act together; this depends on using their app. Downside, Target stores are rare in Trumpland).
  • Incremental cost for +1 person is nothin'. So take a partner or podmate.
  • Or pet.

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My question is, can I take a leisure travel to california by Air out of state?

It's not illegal so you can.

I'm not sure what type of "leisure" you are looking for though. Pretty much everything is closed and in lockdown, so the most likely scenario would be being confined in a hotel room for a 10 day quarantine with take out food and no human contact. That's not my idea of a fun time.

Will my quarantine be mandated?

Yes

Since I will be travelling for few days, my trip would be useless if I had to quarentine myself.

Correct

What is sane advice that I should take?

DO NOT TRAVEL. This is a terrible idea in the middle of a pandemic spike with hundreds of people dying every day in California alone.

How much of risk I am putting myself and others in the current covid-19 situation?

This is a very high and completely unnecessary risk.

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