Why do Protestants trust what Paul and Luke wrote 100%?

Why do Protestants trust what Paul and Luke wrote 100%?

They don't. In fact, Paul and Luke sometimes disagree, and Protestants tend to take Paul over Luke in those cases. Consider these quotes from The Theology of St. Luke by Hans Conzelmann, which was published in German in 1953 and translated into English by Geoffrey Buswell in 1961. They are descriptive of Lukan theology and how it differs from Paul. Then ask yourself, which do Protestants follow?

From pages 208-209:

...We can see this in relation to the Law: although the primitive community–including Paul–keeps the Law, Gentile Christians are free from it, and for a reason which is characteristically different from Paul’s.

He recognizes that Luke agrees with Paul in the fact of Gentiles being free from the Law (at least from the ceremonial aspects of the Law) but also openly acknowledges that he sees that Luke believes this for an entirely different reason from Paul. In other words, Luke’s explanation of why we don’t have to be circumcised, etc. is not Paul’s explanation. This is massively significant!

He doesn’t elaborate any on the difference between the two (at least not in this chapter), but the difference is obvious to anyone who can read: Paul’s reason, of course, is the boneheaded faith vs works rhetoric. But Luke’s reason is that the apostles got together in Acts 15 and under the guidance of the Spirit determined that Gentiles need not keep any of the Law but the moral commandments, and to abstain from idolatry, abstain from eating blood/”things strangled”, and abstain from sexual immorality. Could there be any two more different ways to explain the same fact?

From page 228:

The conception of sin [in Luke-Acts], compared with Paul’s, has a strong ethical colouring, and the same is true of deliverance from sin. The idea of ‘forgiveness’, which recedes right into the background in Paul, is predominant in Luke, but repentance is the condition of forgiveness.

My elaboration: Unlike Paul who speaks of justification instead of forgiveness and all but denies the necessity of repentance to ‘justification’. Luke’s theology which emphasizes forgiveness of sins on the basis of repentance clearly calls for repentance, whereas Paul’s justification by faith and not by works deters people from repenting by making them feel that they are justified in continuing to sin even with reckless abandon.

Again, later on the same page, and continuing to 229:

Forgiveness and repentance [in Luke-Acts] are inseparably connected…The combination which is characteristic of Luke is that of repentance and conversion, which shows that these two go together as the basis for Baptism and forgiveness and indicate a change of attitude in the way of life.

Compare that with the normal Protestant interpretation of Paul that its all by faith alone.

So do Protestants trust both Paul and Luke 100%? No.

Furthermore, Paul himself sometimes contradicts his own "by faith and not by works" theology, as in Galatians 3:26-27 where he says "We are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus BECAUSE as many of us as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Here, he agrees with Luke against his normal Pauline theology, in making baptism essential to salvation rather than faith alone. Do Protestants trust this passage from Paul? No, generally, they do not.

Okay I will attempt to give an answer to this question that is based on evidence. It goes along the lines of the following websites:

http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/paulorigin.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Christianity

My answer is that Protestants believe Paul's and Luke's writings for one main reason: they wound up in the New Testament Canon, and that the Holy Spirit wouldn't allow Jesus' message to be corrupted so the final Canon contains only 100% inspired and trustworthy writings, all heretical and apocryphal writings and having been eliminated from the Canon. Although this may be a circular reason, it has a logic to it -- after all, if the message has been corrupted, how do we know what to believe in the Bible?

In fact there seems to be quite a bit of evidence that would seem to make it very difficult to automatically place full trust in Paul and Luke. I will try to analyze the evidence step by step here.

First, Paul's own testimony should be scrutinized. For whether he is trustworthy or not, his own testimony should give us a basis to judge. Paul himself says that he didn't go to study with the actual students of Jesus after his conversion, but continued to receive visions and spread his message from his own understanding. After three years he went to see Peter, and wound up meeting with no one but James. Then fourteen years later he finally went, according to his own words, to meet with the "Pillars of the Church" - the one Jesus had established and gave authority to - and present them with his own gospel to the Gentiles he'd been spreading. As he tells it:

1Then after fourteen years, I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also. 2I went in response to a revelation and, meeting privately with those esteemed as leaders, I presented to them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. I wanted to be sure I was not running and had not been running my race in vain. 3Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. 4This matter arose because some false believers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. 5We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you.

6As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message. 7On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised,a just as Peter had been to the circumcised.b 8For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles. 9James, Cephasc and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. 10All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.

Paul Opposes Cephas

11When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned...

We aren't told the events from the point of view of Peter or James. We simply assume Peter must have realized Paul was right, and that they told Paul they approve of everything he's doing. To me, this is already a very strange conclusion -- simply taking Paul's word for it. What's even more strange is that it almost seems from what Paul writes that the Great Commission wasn't even given. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2028:16-20

Paul's writings quote the OT from the Septuagint, showing Paul was a Greek Jew from Tarsus (modern day Turkey). Many have remarked that Paul's writings don't show a great knowledge of Jesus' actual ministry and parables during his life.

This is a very serious question because without Paul's writings it's not obvious that Jesus taught not to follow the Law. It seems, in fact, that Jesus seems to have taught the opposite. First of all he said he came to the lost sheep of Israel:

He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." http://biblehub.com/matthew/15-24.htm

In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus taught you shouldn't teach Jews to ignore the commandments given through Moses, something Paul explicitly did:

Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-19.htm

Rather than saying the Law was powerless to save, Jesus said this about the Ten Commandments:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A16-22&version=NKJV

In fact even as Jesus taught about the Son of Man being betrayed to the Gentiles, and will rise on the third day, he didn't say that the Law would be nailed to the cross.

This creates a high burden of proof that Paul and Luke are trustworthy, because if a Jew becomes a Christian he essentially has to take Paul's word for it that the law has been nailed to the cross. He has to place his faith in the words of Paul and meanwhile will have to bend over backwards to reconcile it with the explicit words of God in the Old Testament, which he has much better reasons to believe, as well as the words of Jesus:

http://biblelaw101.com/Home/The%20Law%20of%20God%20is%20Forever.htm

Basing Paul's authority on his own epistles or the writings of his students is the same as Joseph Smith or Mohammad. Protestants are not Muslims or Mormons, so if they apply the same standard, that rules out this reason for accepting Paul.

The only place I know where leaders of the Jerusalem church are said to vouch for Paul is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_of_Peter ... but the problem is that most NT scholars don't believe it was written by Peter. As far as I know this removes the last piece of evidence that would give authority to Paul.

On the contrary, we see leaders of the Jerusalem Church following the Law long after the resurrection and even Pentecost, when they received the Holy Spirit and gained a lot of understanding. Furthermore, we know the historical Church in Jerusalem became marginalized over time, and the Ebionites, Nazarenes and Judaizers -- basically Jewish Christians -- were branded Heretics. Remember, though, Jesus said he was sent only to save the lost sheep of Israel. And he established a Church led by Peter and James. But something happened to them and the apostle to the Gentiles went on to found a bunch of Churches who then eclipsed the authority of the original Church.

The original religion of Jesus and his followers was called "The Way". And I see no way to rule out the possibility that Paul's ideas were, like Joseph Smith's and Mohammad's, basically innovations based on personal ideas and revelations. Paul was a Greek speaking Jew who always quoted from the Septuagint. Jesus' teachings focused on the Law and holiness, the Messiah and the Kingdom of God. Paul's ideas about Jesus being a blood sacrifice sound closer to the mystery cult religions of the Gentile nations at the time, which may explain why some people today like to make strained comparisons to the cult of Mithras or something similar. Jesus isn't clearly shown to teach anything like that.

So to sum up -- although I am not at all saying that Paul invented Christianity out of whole cloth, and not saying that Paul and Luke couldn't be saying the truth, I am aware of no solid reasons to automatically trust everything they wrote, and a lot of reasons that make it difficult for me to trust them when it comes to what God said and the teachings of Jesus, which stand on their own. My answer is that Protestants put faith in the way the Canon was compiled, and because of the way Christianity developed, Paul became quite a central figure to the early Church fathers and thus it is dogma today to put absolute faith in his writings. One might question, but that would be going against the official position.

You forget that basically all epistles that we have (be it from Paul or not) have been written to combat false doctrine creeping in. If what Paul was teaching was so far off, there should be record of the other apostles speaking up against him. But there isn't.

Note also that in Acts (I know, by Luke, but bear with me), it's actually Peter who starts with teaching the Gentiles, having a vision that teaches him not to regard them unclean. He is the one that starts with "We should not require keeping the full law of non-Jews, since God has given them the spirit as he has us, while not having given them the law." This says nothing about Jewish christians, but still, the idea was there.

You get another important thing wrong - it's not (only) the miracles that give Paul authority, it is the Holy Spirit that was manifest during his works. People were converted because they received the Holy Spirit, not only because Paul showed miracles (indeed, he even had some problems that were caused by people seeing the miracles he performed).

And by the way, that's the same as with Joseph Smith. We as LDS believe him because we feel the Holy Spirit in what he did. In fact, one central important theme of our religion is receiving spiritual confirmation by God of our own. We don't believe J.S. because he said whatever he said or did whatever he did (mircaulously or not). We believe him because God has moved our hearts to believe him, by sending the Holy Ghost in response to prayer. I feel that is the same way in which Paul should be believed or not believed (and has been).

With Mohammed, I can't judge the days where he lived, but nowadays I feel overpowered by Muslims, not inspired. While certain people I know have definitely benefited from converting to Islam, I have never felt that the reason to believe Mohammed was given as "seek personal confirmation from God". In fact, many muslims I talked to didn't quite believe such a thing was possible. What I heard was "Mohammed is the last prophet, because Coran says so. And miraculous proofs are X, Y and Z." That is not to critique Islam or Mohammed or Muslims, since that's a valid point. But I want to point out that this is very different from Joseph Smith.

Consider what the Apostle Paul cited as the proof of his authority:

2 And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power. (1 Corinthians 2:1-5)

• In early 1985, a woman shared 1 Corinthians 13 (about love) with me. Weeks later I became a Christian.

• Months later, in Fall 1985, my new Bible study leader asked me to memorize Galatians 2:20-21:

20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

A month after memorizing it, the Lord took away my fear of death.

• A few months after that, in February 1986, I attended an Intervarsity Christian Fellowship retreat where we studied Philippians 2, which speaks of the joy that springs from sacrificing our own needs to serve others in imitation of Christ. Despite having suffered from depression for many years, a few weeks after the retreat, I was overwhelmed with joy for a month, and was led to a sound church where I worship still, 33 years later. Later meditations on Philippians a few years later finally delivered me from depression completely. Thirty years later, it still has not returned.

• In 1992, after four months of compounded losses (relationship breakup, job loss, car breakdown, a differnt Bible study leader leaving the church and the faith, and other things), a pastor taught from Romans 6 about dying to self as a necessary precursor to being resurrected in Christ. I ended up considering that year to be the best year of my life, so great was the spiritual progress that I made.

1 Corinthians. Galatians. Philippians. Romans. I will spare you the personal results of my careful study of Ephesians and Paul's other letters. Paul said that his Words and ministry were accompanied by and authenticated by demonstrations of the Spirit's power. That has been my personal experience. I cannot speak for all of Protestantism, but that power has not diminished in the centuries since Paul walked among us. And every time I experienced a blessing, I was pointed by those words not to Paul, but to Christ.

Protestants trust what Paul and Luke wrote for the same reason Catholics, and all other Christians, believe what they wrote is correct: because the rest of the New Testament testifies to the veracity of what they say.

Peter asserts Paul's writings are scripture in 2 Peter 3:14-16. The first several chapters of Acts are about everyone but Paul. And, from Paul's conversion to his ministry is a period of several years, wherein the other Apostles are followed and written about.

In Acts 15, where the Council at Jerusalem is recorded, several Apostles affirm Paul's work.