How do Catholics deal with prophecies of future perpetual animal sacrifice?
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Bottom Line, Up Front: so?
We do not need to get into theological weeds here: basic critical thinking suffices.
All the flocks of Kedar will be gathered together to you, The rams of Nebaioth will minister to you; They will go up on with acceptance on My altar, And I shall glorify My glorious house." -Isaiah 60:7 (NASB1995)
Again, so what? Relevance?
... and the Levitical priests shall never lack a man before Me to offer... continually. -Jeremiah 33:18 (NASB1995)
Yet again... I sense a furcation error presupposing that there will always be Levitical priests to "never lack a man."
In other words, such a promise would be contingent upon the Levitical priests existing in the first place. Dubiously, this individual seems to assume that one means the other. But then why say both if they are the same? Why not simply say, "There will always be Levitical priests?" or "Levitical priests will always (x)?" If all Levitical priests "always offer," then why the redundancy? One could argue such a meaning, but it does not necessarily mean what they want it to, even if it could.
All dogs are animals; not all animals are dogs.
In even more words, it does not necessarily follow that just because Levitical priests will "never lack a man to (x)" the world will never lack Levitical priests. They are not necessarily the same thing.
For example, as an analogy, a military unit can "always" or "in perpetuity" have permission to wear (x) in (situation y). That does not mean the team will always exist. Or say they will "always" or "in perpetuity" always have at least one designated marksman. Again, we predicate both on the unit's existence.
Finally, to preempt, let us grant arguendo that all Levitical Priests are these same sacrificing priests.
Questions:
- Are they so 1.1. actually or 1.2. potentially
- If actually, are they always and, if so, always in what sense? Forever? How does that work? What if they get sick? Leprosy? What if they need to sleep?
I primarily raise this point to illustrate that even if they are all this "man before Me," they cannot each possibly, always, actually, and individually be that man; thus, the promise of God that they will "'never' lack a man." ('Half quotes' and bold mine.)
In short, as near as I can tell second-hand, your kosher "bro" brought you a kippah full of piping hot Talmudic fallacies.
As to "continually," it is substantially the same point. We see this same sort of rubbish from "Catholics" arguing against Sedevacantism by suspiciously truncating references to the perpetual Petrine primacy (Ala Vatican I) into "Vatican I sez Peter alwayz (perpetually) gotz sucesserz 'cuz DAWGMUH! SUKKIT, PROTESTANT!" when,
- perpetually does not necessarily mean forever
- Peter cannot have successors forever: it is silly to the point of blasphemy, heresy, and apostasy.
- Perpetuity refers to primacy, not successors; it is Grammar 101.
It shall be... for a sin offering. -Ezekiel 45:17,21-22 (NASB1995)
More of the same. Again, in short, bottom-line: so, what?
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I'm not sure where the idea that sacrifices go on forever comes from when reading Isaiah 60:7.
Jeremiah 22:18 could be answered in this way: Jesus abolished the levitical priesthood by offering himself as the ultimate priestly atonement for sins. Since his atonement can be accepted at any time and any place, it is a continual sacrifice.
In conclusion, Jesus is the continual sacrifice for all time!
Amen.
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How do Catholics deal with prophecies of future perpetual animal sacrifice?
Who needeth not daily (as the other priests) to offer sacrifices first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, in offering himself. - Hebrews 7:27
The so-called perpetual animal sacrifices of the Old Testament no longer exists and have been replaced by the perpetual sacrifice of the mass. At least in Catholic thought and theology.
For Catholics the Sacrifice of the Mass is a perpetual sacrifice of Our Lord Jesus Christ on the Cross.
Chapter 9 of the Letter to the Hebrews addresses the sacrifice of Jesus: Verses 25-28 read, “Not that [Christ] might offer Himself there again and again, as the high priest enters year after year into the sanctuary with blood that is not his own; if that were so He would have had to suffer death over and over from the creation of the world. But now He has appeared at the end of the ages to take away sins once for all by His sacrifice. Just as it is appointed that men die once, and after death be judged, so Christ was offered up once to take away the sins of many; He will appear a second time not to take away sin but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await Him.” Further, Hebrews 7:27 states, “Unlike the other high priests, [Jesus] has no need to offer sacrifice day after day, first for His own sins and then for those of the people; He did that once for all when He offered Himself.” To isolate these verses from the rest of Sacred Scripture and simply take them for face value would lead one to conclude that there could be no other sacrifice– Christ sacrificed Himself, it is over and done with, and that is it period. However, such a view is myopic to say the least.
Please note that in no way do we as Catholics believe that Christ continues to be crucified physically or die a physical death in heaven over and over again. However, we do believe that the Mass does participate in the everlasting sacrifice of Christ. First, one must not separate the sacrifice of our Lord on the cross from the events which surround it. The sacrifice of our Lord is inseparably linked to the Last Supper. Here Jesus took bread and wine. Looking to St. Matthew’s text (26:26ff), He said over the bread, “Take this and eat it. This is my body”; and over the cup of wine, “This is my blood, the blood of the covenant, to be poured out in behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.” The next day, on Good Friday, our Lord’s body hung on the altar of the cross and His precious blood was spilt to wash away our sins and seal the everlasting, perfect covenant. The divine life our Lord offered and shared for our salvation in the sacrifice of Good Friday is the same offered and shared at the Last Supper. The Last Supper, the sacrifice of Good Friday, and the resurrection on Easter form one saving, life-giving event.
Second, one must have a nuanced understanding of time. One must distinguish chronological time from kairotic time as found in Sacred Scripture. In the Bible, chronos refers to chronological time– past, present, and future– specific deeds which have an end point. Kairos or kairotic time refers to God’s eternal time, time of the present moment which recapitulates the entire past as well as contains the entire future. Therefore, while our Lord’s saving event occurred chronologically about the year AD 33, in the kairotic sense of time it is an everpresent reality which touches our lives here and now. In the same sense, this is why through Baptism we share now in the mystery of Christ’s passion, death, and resurrection, a chronological event that happened almost 2,000 years ago but is still efficacious for us today. - Why do we say Mass is a sacrifice when the Letter to the Hebrews indicates that Christ offered only one sacrifice on the cross?
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