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Existing in a perfect state did not deprive Adam and Eve of Free Will. Genesis 3:4-5 tells us that the serpent firstly modified God's Word by promising Eve that by taking of the forbidden fruit she would not surely die. Second, he enticed her with the promise of knowledge (knowing good and evil).
Genesis 3:4-5 (KJV) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
You might say that Eve was led into believing that the serpent was showing her a "fast-track" way to become closer to God.
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I believe Adam and a woman were created innocent, but not perfect in the sense in which the Lord Jesus Christ is perfect! The Bible says that "first man became a living being" but Christ is the "life-giving" spirit. Christ is the source of life, the creator. They were created beings and as such not equal to God, they were not the exact reflection of God as Jesus was, they were not born of God. Jesus was the only begotten son of God! and only that which is born from above is able to stay away from sinning! They were not capable of staying innocent because it was God's plan for the perfection to be achieved only in Christ! It was God's plan for everything earthly to die as a seed and after that to come a heavenly one ("first man is earthly, second is from above"). I don't know exactly why God determined such a plan and process, but it has to do with His ways and character.
Also, James says that "lust produces sin" and Paul says that "we become slaves to the one we listen to". What did Eve have if not LUST when she first desired a fruit from the forbidden tree? And why did she listen and believe the serpent if not because of something imperfect, incomplete about her ? It is plane to me that there was a natural weakness, or natural inclination to sin in them already.
She and Adam were not born from above, so they were not able to fulfill God's commands! They simply had to slip soon or later, as we all do in our natural, earthly beings. This is not to say that God had some mean motives and that I blame Him, no,no,no but His plan, like it or not, includes the fall. But thanks be to God who provided a remedy from the beginning!
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Adam and Eve were perfect in the state they were created. They sinned because (1) they are not God and (2) they did not have Christ.
There were two trees in the garden, not just one. The second tree was the "tree of life" of which they did not eat (or else they would have not sinned). This tree is mentioned in the book of Revelation (see 2:7; 22:2). This tree bears the gift of eternal life for which is promised by grace through faith in Jesus. Based upon John 17:3, we know that eternal life is the knowledge of God. Adam and Eve, while being perfect in their created state, did not yet receive the fullness of God's purpose for them. This does not mean they were imperfect, however, they had not yet existed in their final state. To illustrate, a caterpillar is not imperfect, it's just not a butterfly.
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The DNA in Adam and Eve was perfect. (Think of the number of times dna has been copied from person to person, cell to cell before it has reached you. There is a lot of room for error.) Today it suffers from serious decay, thus our medical nightmares. In order to understand why Adam and Eve sinned we need to look to Jesus.
Colossians 1:15-18 NKJV
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
Remember that Jesus is first in all things and that He was the only righteous man to ever live.
Romans tells us that no man is righteous, we all fall short of the Glory of God. This is why God allowed the snake to enter the garden. Because if Adam had not been tested, he surely COULD have been righteous as Jesus.
But because Adam was tested, he showed that he was just a man and he fell short as we always do. They sinned because of their own desires, not because of any imperfection. They sinned so that Jesus could have preeminence in all things.
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God did not create sin, but He SURELY allows it for this very reason.
Luke 7:47 NIV
Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”
God's purpose for us is that we learn to trust Him (faith) and love Him (commanded to love). This is done by allowing us to sin, so that we may be forgiven.
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What is your source for the word "perfect"? Not all Christians necessarily believe this. Here's an excerpt from The Orthodox Church, by Timothy Ware:
Humans at their first creation were therefore perfect, not so much in an actual as in a potential sense. Endowed with the image from the start, they were called to acquire the likeness by their own efforts (assisted of course by the grace of God). Adam began in a state of innocence and simplicity. "He was a child, not yet having his understanding perfected," wrote Irenaeus. "It was necessary that he should grow and so come to his perfection." God set Adam on the right path, but Adam had in front of him a long road to traverse in order to reach his final goal.
He notes later that
According to Augustine, humans in Paradise were endowed from the start with all possible wisdom and knowledge...
Augustine has had an outsize influence in Western Christianity, but the idea that Adam and Eve were perfect beings wasn't universal in early Christianity.
So the answer from an Eastern Orthodox perspective would be, I think, that Adam and Eve had free will and were far from perfect. Adam and Eve were as likely to sin as any one of us is. They were tempted by the serpent; they could have resisted; but they chose not to.
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I don't think that Adam and Eve's act of believing Satan automatically means that they were imperfect. In fact, as paradoxical as it is, it may even prove that they were perfect. In 1 Corinthians 13:7 Paul is giving us a description of love and among other things he says that love "believes all things", however it doesn't, of course, mean that love is imperfect.
Perhaps, the right way of putting it would be this:
Adam and Eve were perfect in that state, in which God created them, which is the state of innocence. However, with the partaking of the tree of knowledge of good and evil they died, as far as the original state is concerned ("... for on that day when you eat the fruits of that tree, you will surely die" - Gen 2:17), and now Adam and Eve in their new state - the one, in which God did not create them - were found imperfect because of the poison that they had within them from the poisonous tree.
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One thing I know for sure is that God does not imprison His children HE created us in HIS image and likeness but! He also gave us a mind of our own He tells you, this is the way, walk in it. If you choose otherwise, that is because you made a conscious effort to do so. That is why the bible says ''you are inexcusable'' oh man!
We know right from wrong, Adam and Eve knew they were doing the wrong thing, and went ahead with it. It was a choice they made
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Disclaimer - From a Wesleyan-Arminian soteriological perspective:
Although they were both pronounced 'very good' (I will avoid using the apparantly contentious word 'perfect' - although 'good' alone is potentially just as contentious - until addressing it's use after the close of my argument), Adam and Eve's choice to sin was a tragic* inevitability of the interplay between their being granted free will, and God's Sovereign determination to outwork his plan of redemption.
Firstly regarding God's plan, scripture tells us that Christ is the "Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." (Rev 13:8) - i.e. it was always going to be this way. God acheives his greatest Glory through the plan of redemption by fully demonstrating the two great and quintessential aspects of his nature: His Holiness (Is 6:1-5) and His love (1 Jn 4:7-16). The plan of redemption necessarily involves redeeming - via an extraordinary act of Love - a rebellious people from the consequence of the sin that has enstranged them from the most Holy God. Even though there was a necessity to man's fall, the way it was accomplished did not undermine man's free agency as: God presented an opportunity for obedience or disobedience inherant in the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but he neither compelled one nor the other (in fact that disobedience was chosen despite God's command and warning is sufficient testament that man was a free agent). He (God) further allowed another free agent to act as tempter and start the chain of unfortunate events (scripture teaches us the Serpent was animated by Satan to do the particular work - cf. Rev 20:2). That this was foreseen and permitted as working with His plan (as opposed to Sovereignly and irresistably decreeing it) is deduced from his disavowal of tempting anyone (James 1:13)
In terms of the outworking of this plan with respect to the free will of Adam and Eve, it manifested in a different manner (or more accurately, sequence) for each of them:
Firstly, Eve in being deceived, was not (initially) fully culpable. This is born out in the judgment applied to her: she was disciplined for her error, but the death sentence was not pronounced against her. (cf. Genesis 3:16) Adam, however, sinned wilfully and had the death sentence passed against him (it's effect was immediate in spiritual terms - being cut off from God's presence - and eventual in physical terms - he would, after a life of toil, return to the dust). The Romans passage emphasizes that the sin of Adam (not Eve, nor even Adam and Eve) was the cause of the fall. It was he that was barred from the Garden and the tree of life not Eve. But just as Adam wilfully followed Eve's error into sin, Eve wilfully chose to leave God's presence and follow Adam into sin and death after the judgments were pronounced.
The question remains "why did Adam choose to sin?", He himself answers - "because of the woman" (v12). Modern eyes may see this as mere blame-shifting, but in the absence of other evidence, (and by adopting a hermeneutic compatible with 2 Tim 3:16) we can assume that this is actually the true reason. Adam chose to follow Eve rather than God's command out of a considered choice motivated by desire. He could not have understood the full implications of 'death' and would perhaps have been unsure what would happen to Eve after she had been deceived and eaten the fruit, but he was fully resolved not to be separated from her, even if it meant the loss of everything else - he was the bible's first idolater (placing as an object of supreme affection, something other than God). This decision was possible for a 'very good' creature with free will to make - he did not have perfect knowledge to see the full implications of his decision, but in his eyes, it was a reasonable decision made with good motives - though he was (self-)deceived in thinking there was no better option, as the glorious plan of redemption was yet hidden to him. Likewise, though in a different order, Eve's decision to leave the garden with Adam and follow him into sin was motivated by her desire for her husband opposed to an implied permission to remain with God. A logical conclusion from her preceding judgment, subsequent action in accompanying Adam and eventual physical death, is that Eve's 'sin that leads to death' (cf. 1 Jn 5:16-17) wasn't in being deceived or even in acting from that deception, but it was like Adam, an act of idolatory in choosing her husband over God.
Summary: The fall ensued even though the actors were 'very good' (sinless, not victims of total depravity and in possession of free moral agency) because they freely chose to play the parts written for them by the Sovereign Lord's intricately crafted tragedian* plot - the necessary counterpoint to his subsequent stunning redemptive revelation.
Regarding the use of the word perfect: as has been pointed out, there is often in it's use - in biblical terminology at least - the sense of completeness or full maturity, and in this sense, it is not legitimately applicable to Adam and Eve, as they were incomplete and lacking in full maturity in the area of knowledge at the very least. That it is not universally used in this sense in scripture is evident from the counter example of Lev 22:21 - many versions do not scruple to use the word here where it has the mere sense of flawless or unblemished (other versions translate the original thus) - which are entirely legitimate synonyms for perfection according to normal English usage. That the corresponding original should not be so translated to perfect in this instance is more a matter of theological preference than an artifact of language. Conclusion: it is not actually wrong to use the word in application to prelapsarian Adam and Eve in a certain sense, but in order to avoid confusion, the term should either be further explained or just plain avoided.
*Tragic more in the sense of Romeo and Juliet, and beyond the sense used when referring to The Scottish play .
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Essentially what is being asked here (and, if I may be so bold, reframe the question), is if Adam and Eve were perfect how could they sin? How can beings who are created perfect sin? God is perfect but He cannot sin nor can He be tempted to sin. We infer from Ezekiel (assuming this really is referring to the Devil (aka Satan aka Lucifer?) was perfect in all his ways from his creation (Ezek. 28:15) yet he sinned. The Son of God, the second Adam, became man. He was “without sin” yet He was able to sin since He was subjected to the Temptation. What, then, is the implication upon God if a perfect being can sin? If perfect beings can sin then is God who is, after all, Sovereign, responsible for creating them with that potential?
The essential facts (drawing upon Genesis 2 - 3 are that:
In respect of the facts, we can deduce that:
(i) Genesis does not describe A and E as “perfect” but “very good”. Is there a difference? Does the original Hebrew provide any clue here? (ii) God, who in His omniscience knows good and evil, did not want A and E to have this knowledge and forbad them from accessing it on pain of death. Then this knowledge was harmful to A and E
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First, a definition of perfect. Because God did create us perfect:
Being perfect does not mean that we stayed that way, however. We were created in the image of God (see d). God created us creatures of free will. Indeed, even when Jesus (God made human) was on earth, he had free will (or else his death meant nothing!). Adam and Eve chose to ignore what God said and become imperfect, they chose a shortcut God explicitly told them not to take, killing them spiritually, and separating them from God.
Did God know they would do this? He exists in all of the spectrum of time simultaneously, and Jesus is the lamb slain before the foundation of the world, so I would say yes. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean he's at fault for our free will, in fact, he sent his own Son to die so that we could be saved through grace, because of Adam and Eve's failure.
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I think "perfect" is the wrong word choice here. I think it's important that Adam -- as the first man -- came as a sort of tabula rasa with regards to guilt and sin, but still blew it (so to speak).
It's significant that Jesus is described as a second Adam (1 Cor. 15, Romans 5:14). The implication here, I think, being that given the opportunity, Adam set the tone for mankind by choosing sin, and Christ set the tone righteousness by choosing obedience -- even an obedience that led to death.
Paul goes on to explain how death is found in the representation of Adam (i.e. by choosing to disobey God, and rely on one's own understanding; defining one's own moral standard), but life is found in Christ (i.e. by trusting in God's goodness and His gracious provisions for forgiveness).
As far as "why" this happened, I think this was all part of the grand story of God's grace.
1 Peter 1:20 (NASB)
He [Jesus] was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you 21 who through him are believers in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.Revelation 13:8b (NASB)
... everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
[ETA: the ESV translation aligns a bit better]
Revelation 13:8b (ESV)
...everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
The gracious provision of Jesus was was the plan all along.
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Don't confuse sinlessness( innocent, free from moral wrong) with perfection. Adam and Eve were sinless as newborn children are sinless, innocent and without understanding, not having ever actually committed any sins. But perfection implies more than simply flawlessness; it also requires completion.
When Jesus commanded us to be perfect, he said even as the Father is perfect, not as Adam and Eve had been before the Fall. What's the essential difference?
We get at least one part of it from the Serpent's temptation of Eve: God is not like them because God has knowledge of good and evil, and gaining this knowledge was supposed to make them like God. But he neglected to mention the whole "losing your state of sinlessness (innocent)" part, of course.
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I'll take a shot here, as I've thought about this quite a bit. Feel free to point out anything that doesn't mesh with the bible in some way!
As my current belief and understanding goes, God created Adam and Eve as perfect beings in His image, but also with free will. Without this crucial component, no human would have been choosing to love Him, and (to pull from a book I read*) love compelled is not love at all. The true way we glorify Him is, having been given the choice to rebel, we freely choose to submit to His rule and worship Him.
As to exactly WHY Adam and Eve sinned, I'm not sure I can answer that specific beyond a "they were tempted by Satan and made the wrong choice"; Bob's answer covers this aspect quite well. You'll just have to wait for heaven to see if they're there to ask them! (which gives me an idea...)
*=this is the book I was referring to (The Heart of the Chronicles of Narnia). I highly recommend it, as it helped explain to me several key concepts that should really have been obvious in retrospect but I was totally missing up to that point. :)
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Nowhere in the bible does it say that adam and eve were perfect. The bible does call them good, and even very good. But nowhere does it say they were perfect, perfection belongs to GOD alone. Apparently to be good or even very good does not deprive one of the possibility of choosing to rebel against GOD. I think the whole issue with how is it that Adam and eve sinned is because we wrongfully attribute them as being perfect, but let us not then call them imperfect either, they were deemed good and very good by GOD.