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By disregard, by wrong view, by not wishing Noble Ones to resist, by encouraging to do not give to Noble Ones, by cheating, by taking not given, by what ever deed opposing and harming the Noble truth.
Of course, like Ven. Moggalana and others, might have rippen their kamma, they aren't touched at all by harm, but knowing the straight way to hell for those conducting gravely wrong, out of compassion, they might warn the fool without demand. That is, if a Noble One wishes, all he would, could, do.
Not even Devadata the Buddha could help in this way, yet for others, at least, it was a lesson.
Nobody can help good householder, as he for a long time avoided to follow Noble Ones advices and instead harmed the Gems all around. Long will be his helpless suffering unless he would came to mind and stop.
Four things declared by the Buddha one should approach with utmost carefully conducts, even if small, young: a snake, a fire, a young soldiers of good family and what ever young and new Samana.
The pain of touching the fourth lasts imessureable longer that being hit by fire, biten by a snake, imprisoned by a new King...
Still good householders view is directed toward fruits of deeds outwardly, and not of the cause of just own kamma.
The Noble One is freed of both, yet the fool not, and with wrong view able to kill even mother, father, hram and splitt the Gems. The Gems, those at the other shore, stay untouched. Fool! The fool not.
Understand?
So may good householder do what ever he thinks is proper or stay at home, stand and cry in pain. His choice.