Please help to identify these coins

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First one is German States MANSFELD-EISLEBEN 1/3 Thaler enter image description here

(search for: coin george dragon 1670)

see also Thaler in wikipedia


Second one seems to be 10 Kreuzer - Maximilian III Joseph

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also discussed here

(searched for: coin 1770 ell)

see also Kreuzer in wikipedia

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