Is Jesus the Creator?

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Jesus is the word of god that became flesh.

The words of man are flimsy, men can lie and change their positions.

The will and word of god never change, and as such the words that he speaks ring true and are consistent throughout time.

Because he has had all knowledge and all things are known until him, he does not "grow" as men do: he has made all things from the beginning.

As such, Christ Jesus is the word.

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god.

This is because GOD CANNOT LIE! he can only speak of himself, that in which means that when he speaks, he speaks himself! Every word that he utters IS the ESSENCE OF GOD!

And out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks, so Jesus has been there since the beginning and even before the world began.

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The Catechism of the Council of Trent teaches that Creation is the common work of the Three Divine Persons

Let thus much suffice for the explanation of the first article of Creation, the Creed : it may not, however, be unnecessary to add that the creation is the common work of the three Persons of the Holy Persons, and undivided Trinity of the Father, whom, according to the doctrine of the Apostles, we here declare to be " Creator of heaven and earth ;" of the Son, of whom the Scripture says, " all things were made by him ;" and of the Holy Ghost, of whom it is written, "The Spirit of God moved over the waters:" and again, " By the word of the Lord the heavens were established and all the power of them by the Spirit of his mouth."

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Is Jesus the Creator? No. As we usually see when this question is asked in a variety of ways, the same verses are usually referred to - however they are usually misapplied or misunderstood.

Let's examine the ones used by OP. We'll get to Jesus' role in creation shortly.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made…and the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 1:1-14

John is not talking about Jesus here. The logos is not yet Jesus because Jesus was not yet born. While that may sound odd, it is true if we allow scripture to speak freely unburdened by traditional interpretations. Jesus was born ~4BC so could not possibly be 'in the beginning' or the Creator.

For by him (Jesus Christ) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him. Col 1:16

Notice the easy give away if we are looking to read the text or believe what we are told it says. "in heaven" and "in (or on) earth" This cannot be talking about a Genesis creation -

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth Gen 1:1

God doesn't inspire the wrong words, clumsy words or confusing words. Colossians' context is of the new creation and the church. Keep reading

all things have been created through Him and for Him

Not BY him! Jesus will come to have first place in everything. Why? Because he didn't have first place before he was born in anything except as the key to God's plan of salvation for all men.

He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. 18 He is also the head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.

That's why he said to the Jews - 'before Abraham was, I am'. Not because he was God, but because God had planned for him to come "in these last days" (Heb 1:1) well before Abraham existed.

Jesus' role in God's plan was far more important than Abraham's.

and to enlighten all people as to what the plan of the mystery is which for ages has been hidden in God, who created all things Eph 3:9

Note: "through Jesus Christ" in OP quote is an addition in the KJV and a couple others. So God created, we know from many places that Jesus isn't God - he is the image and form of God, but Jesus is not the Creator of Genesis. This understanding can only be obtained by inference, speculation, addition and mis-reading the word God has provided. Paul and Jesus have been quite clear about who God is and who Jesus is. Creation is not attributed to Jesus - he wasn't born yet. But all things realise their eternal destiny, just as God planed, through Jesus.

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3

yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 1 Cor 8:6

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Isaiah 48:12-13 (KJV)
12Β  Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

(What is Jesus called in Revelation? Alpha and Omega...)

13Β  Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.

The above shows that the Bible teaches Jesus Christ to be the Creator. And Christians believe the propositions of the Bible to be true. Thus Christians believe that Jesus "laid the foundation of the earth" etc.

But Christians, having established that Jesus is God the Son, the 2nd person of the Trinity and the Word of God, would thus see Christ as that Word which proceeded from the Father's mouth when He (the Father) spoke at creation. Thus Christ was the energizing Word that created all things for the Father. We are not to imagine that the Father has vocal cords (He is a Spirit). His "speaking' is an anthropomorphic term. The Word that He spoke, being that same Word which was in the beginning with God and was God (John 1). This shows us a glimpse of how tightly knit the Persons of the Trinity are. The Son is the very Word of the Father, Who brings all things into existence for the Father and the Holy Spirit is His breath. Amazing imagery to meditate upon!

As a short reference to the above thought, please hear Calvin :"Since at the very moment when God said, "Let there be light," The energy of the Word was immediately exerted......"

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For Christians that are creationists, and that accept the doctrine of the Trinity, yes.

From CARM.org, which believes and advocates both doctrines. The idea that Jesus is Creator is one of the arguments to support that Jesus is God.

* CARM is not alone in this belief, but I decided to link to only one reference.

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To anyone who rejects the idea of Creationism altogether, or to anyone or any group that doesn't believe that Jesus is God, the answer would be "no".

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