Was Textile Armour More Effective at Stopping Arrows than Mail?

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I would say no. The accounts I've heard of are about crusaders who looked like pin cushions, yes because they had a bunch of arrows that had failed to penetrate their quilted tunics/other padded armor, but this was after said arrows had already penetrated the mail they were wearing on top and thus lost a lot of their energy. It seems to me that the accounts you're referring to may be distorted versions of this, where the person retelling it has forgotten that they actually had mail on top as well.

And really, if there was "heavy padding with mail in it", shouldn't that be called mail armor with heavy padding instead? A curious inconsistency.

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To an extend, yes. an Archaeologist friend of mine has tested padded linen ( not glued,sewed ) greek armour ( linothorax) , and, due to the addition of many sew rows all along it and around 9-10 cloth layers, it can stop a competition bow with armour piercing arrows shot at 50-70 metres. Ofcourse, the contussion would have broke any rib behind the padded cloth, and after three shots an arrow was able to trespass the textile, as it lost strength.

During some testing done in the field (and not in lab conditions or documented), mail and bronze got pierced, even flat riveted mail ( except 6 to 1 or 8 to 1 mail, that did stop them most of the time), while linothorax padding could sustain 1 to 3 shots before losing integrity. A friend of mine builds correct medieval (13th-14th) aragonese over-the-mail gambesons ( called perpunt) with the same style as the other friend's linothoraxes, and they can stand atleast one arrow pierce before losing strength.

The right, bright red one is an example of this clothing garment: enter image description here

How it was worn:

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Notice the horizontal sewing lines. The principle is the same than on mountain climbing ropes, more sewings, and more layers, more resistance.

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