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Behind the idea of God creating everything, even currently, are several issues which I will try to briefly look at. So where to get a starting point?
Revelation 4:8 NKJV
"Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come."
God is always and only holy. Never sinful. But Proverbs 16:1
"The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom."
God being holy has, I think we can say, a holy motive or reason for making "the wicked".
On this Christianity site I once posed the question, "Is there a denomination which espouses hard determinism?" And Yogon Poet replied that he did know a church which strictly followed determinism. So it would appear that in some peoples eyes Christianity and hard-determinism are compatible.
John 1:3 ESV
"All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made."
Adam was made by God. Adam sinned. If God had not made Adam, Adam would not have sinned. God knew that if He created Adam Adam would sin, but God went ahead and created Adam. God has ultimate responsibility for what He has created. In 1 Corinthians 15:42-49 we see the contrast between "first man" who fails to obey, he is "of dust", and the "last Adam" who is "life-giving". God made Adam who sinned but then that becomes the backdrop to Jesus standing out as His Son who does not sin but is the "heavenly man". 1 Cor 16:49.
Assuming then that there are Christians who are hard-determinists, e.g. as Yogon Poet put in on this site, how might they see human actions?
Many Christians are compatibilists and say that God is sovereign and man responsible. [eg. A.W. Pink.], however, what might it be like to be be a Christian and a hard-determinist?
It would be to believe that everything one does/creates, from making a meal, a symphony, a painting, a rocket, a car or a sermon, God was ultimately responsible for it. It would be to believe that all things are determined by the way in which God has determined they would be. ["Instrumental responsibility" e.g. Job 1:12. Here God shows His authority over Satan-"All that he has is in your power", God says, and within the limits of that authorisation Satan is an instrument in God's plan.]
Job 14:5
"Since his[man's] days are determined, The number of his months is with you; You have appointed his limits, so that he cannot pass."
Man's days are determined by God. But if he is ill and a scientist produces a medicine which extends his life, is God still in control? Yes God is in control because God sustains the existence of the scientist, and the nature of the scientists life. ["upholding all things by the word of His power" Hebrews 1:3]
Acts 17:26
"And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,".
Jim and Flora may or may not be Christians, either way they decide because of Jim's health to move house in two months time. They think they made the decision. In one sense they did. But why did they decide? They decided because that was the way in which God had "determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings".
Luke 22:22; Acts 2:23; Acts 4:28 all have the word "determined" in reference to the Jesus being crucified. The cross being the epitome of sin.
We choose. We choose on the basis of who we are. We do not choose who we are. God chooses who we are. God chooses our nurture and nature and whether we are born again or not. We are instruments in His hand and what marks we make in the sand, [Bach, Chaucer and Henry Ford made some well known ones] is up to God; for Romans 11:36-
"For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen."
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When God originally created the universe the Bible means he did it ex nihilo, i.e. out of nothing. Since the six days of creation nothing has been created ex nihilo, with the possible exception of spiritual things such as the new birth, and Christ's resurrection body. We also wait the creation of the new heavens and the new earth, which may also be ex nihilo. But nothing else apart from these.
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In the Christian worldview, God didn't "create and forget" like a divine watchmaker. Instead God gives us a share of Himself in the form of capacities. He also gives us freedom to direct each of our individual will to plan our own individual fulfillment in the hope we use our freedom responsibility to participate in God's plan for humanity. Through His revelation in Scripture and in Jesus Christ, we KNOW what God intended for humanity. Not only that, God gives us the MEANS so we CAN do it, by giving us the Holy Spirit so we stay in communion with Him as we grow to be more and more like Him. In this sense, God keeps working out His purpose for humanity, which we colloquially can name "keep creating" until all things are under Christ's authority (Eph 1:22-23).
You are right that God made the building blocks, which in the classical tradition since St. Augustine, matured in the medieval times with St. Thomas Aquinas, are spelled out as 4 gradations of Being each with certain level of God-ness in natural things, giving them their capacities (potential) AND telos (the measure of a thing's perfection, purpose, goodness):
Humans are created in the image of God, understood as being endowed by God with capacities (as described above, a.k.a "human nature"), specific talent, and the freedom to choose our own individual life purposes where in the pursuit of these temporal but natural for us (procreation, creativity, culture, society) we can make "good" or "bad" decision when measured against the telos of "human nature" as well as discerned from God's specific purpose for each of us (cf Ps. 57:2, Pr 19:21, Rom 8:28, etc.). Some examples: being a responsible husband & father, start an ethical business that contributes to society, being a good political leader, becoming a Catholic priest or a Protestant pastor, etc. When these temporal goals are achieved ethically and ordered properly toward our ultimate goal (God Himself), the ultimate goal coheres in each of our temporal goal. So when I love God as my #1 purpose, I can then truly say that I'm being a good husband for God as well as for my wife. Or that my business is for God as well as for gaining legitimate wealth.
In other words, by sustaining all beings (including us) and directing all beings to their proper telos (by each kind grows properly), God keeps creating (indirectly) with our cooperation through our individual goals (as long as they are achieved ethically). In addition, God works within the body of Christ helping him to realize his rule on earth (Kingdom of God), each of us shining a small portion of his glory as small images of God. Collectively, the body of Christ under the rule of Christ is shining God's glory many times brighter (as his "inheritance", Eph 1:18), the telos of God's creation of human beings.
Out of all gradations of Being only rational beings can rebel (humans and angels). When we rebel we become dark spots in God's creation, but for humans God gave us His Son Jesus so that we now have the option to be healed from our sinful inclinations. If we say "yes" to Jesus, with the Holy Spirit we can act properly again to cooperate with God to bring His creation to the final end in history.
But this world is meant to be a "trial run" and a "training ground", a sphere where each human can choose whether to cooperate with God or not. By the time God created the next world, humans have already made their choices. Those who choose God will be resurrected bodily and become part of God's untainted and glorious creation to which this world is a mere shadow.
"Why is that puppy so cute? Because God made it that way". Yes, God created the puppy's breed in his mind, let's say Pomeranian with its potential cuteness. When THAT Pomeranian puppy was born, God endows the Pomeranian capacity and telos INTO that puppy's existence. So yes, God made it that way. BUT God is not finished when the puppy was born. He also sustains the puppy's existence until it grows without sickness / defects to become full cute grown Pomeranian, i.e. a "good" Pomeranian (according to the template in his mind). So although God is still involved we don't say God "creates", but "sustains".
"I couldn't build a car without God guiding me and nudging me in the right direction, but does that mean God created it?" In the Christian framework, we say that we participate in God's creativity so collectively we designed a car and kept improving it in the past 140 years or so. The car is truly our creation, but using the capacity "loaned" by God. Did God intend to create a car through us? Possibly, but again, we don't say God "created car", but God "created human's creative instinct to imitate God's own creativity in nature" to which we need to respond with thankfulness and make sure our own sub-creation is consistent with God's overall telos for humanity. Because by the same creativity we unfortunately can use it to make weapons of war.
"The guy that invented the microchip is the same guy who invented the iPhone". Rather, as a rational being endowed with the same creative nature and social dispositions, one became a microchip designer, another creates bigger better thing: the iPhone. Did God intend humans to create iPhone? Maybe, but we normally say there is telos not just for an individual but for the whole humankind. Again, as a collective we need to use our God-given discernment to decide what's good for humanity and learn from our mistakes. One thing that American evangelicals often forget is social justice and how in the Bible it was really clear that God expects the powerful to help the weak and the downtrodden as proper worship (ex. Micah 6:8, Amos 5:21-24). God is at work to create a more perfect human society. It's reasonable to assume that the technologies and cultural products humanity managed to create is part of God's "creation plan" all along, and needs to be measured against the telos for humanity.
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God creates, man modifies.
God created the grapes, but man makes the wine.
God created the wheat, but man makes the bread.
God created iron ore, but man makes steel.
God created lithium, but man makes batteries.
As the OP puts it, God created the "building blocks", the original, but man merely uses those things to modify. Man does not create anything original, but only modifies.
Hope that helps.