I have a suggestion of option C (which I have done before in a different country): travel to a large hub and fly directly from that hub.
In your case, you could obtain a visa to enter the UK, take a low cost bus from Paris to London and then fly directly from London to Sydney or Melbourne and then take an domestic flight to Adelaide.
This would reduce the amount of countries you may find yourself stuck in.
I did it twice, no delays, but some fright for delays.
always a cheap second ticket with several options to buy another second ticket cheap.
I used skyscanner to see the benefits.
I have done A-B one ticket, B-C other ticket several times, for very long haul flights. Australia-Hawaii-Canada, Europe-UK-Canada, that kind. I always look up what’s the next flight after mine on A-B and only buy B-C presuming I will be on that one. There’s still risk but lower. This might involve a hotel in B as well which lowers the savings. However, the savings in my case is so huge (because I am pairing a business class ticket with an economy on a low cost carrier) it was never a question.
It really depends on which companies you pick to fly with in option two.
Option 1 will, as you say, almost certainly guarantee you another equal flight should something happen at some stage of your journey which causes you to not make your connection.
Option 2 however is largely dependant on which companies you use to fly your different legs with.
You also need to remember that in the event that the two different airlines you fly are not either codeshare or Alliance partners, you will need to collect and re-check in your baggage at your stopover point (be aware baggage allowances may also be different between each of the airlines you choose hence you may have to forfeit, send or pay extra for your luggage at your stopover).
You do not need to have a valid visa for entry to a country when you are in a transit situation, however, as you would be re-checking luggage (in option 2), some airports may request you get a transit visa at the minimum as the check-in area is outside of the “sterile” (read: secure) zone (some airports don’t require this as you can collect your baggage before the customs check and go to a transit / help counter for the corresponding airline you will be continuing your next leg on).
Also, you need to consider that your flight may not (and in most cases will not) necessarily be delayed at all (but it is always good to consider it being delayed as part of your travel plans).
Further, if you want to fly cheap, consider when the off-peak season is. Going in or around major holidays in either your departing or arriving country is going to push up the price of your ticket by up to 200% of an off season fare (sometimes even more).
Option 1 : Baggage will arrive at final destination without you needing to do anything passed the initial check-in. If lost or rerouted, the airline will usually offer some kind of temporary compensation until your baggage arrives (at least if you claim under Australian Consumer Law). If delayed, will be moved to next available flight and/or accommodation / food provided for (if the airline is at fault and the delay is overnight/a considerable number of hours). Can use the lounge of the airline at all ports of call (that a lounge for said airline exists) if you are a member of one of their programs that grants lounge access (or is some instances pay for the privilege as a one off).
Option 2 : (Alliance) – Will in most cases be similar to option 1 excepting the price of the ticket(s) being cheaper, however compensation may not be provided unless your baggage is declared as lost). If delayed, will usually be moved to next available flight with the same airline as your second leg. Can use the lounge of the first airline (until initial departure) if you are a member of one of their programs that grants lounge access (or is some instances pay for the privilege as a one off) and the second airlines lounge at the stopover point (subject to the same conditions of entry).
(Codeshare) – Once again similar to option 1 excepting the price of the ticket(s) being cheaper, however compensation may not be provided unless your baggage is declared as lost). If delayed, will usually be moved to next available flight with the same airline as your second leg (though in some cases the airline of your first leg may offer an alternative). Can use the lounge of the first airline (until initial departure) if you are a member of one of their programs that grants lounge access (or is some instances pay for the privilege as a one off) and the second airlines lounge at the stopover point (subject to the same conditions of entry).
(Unrelated Airlines / Other) A cheaper ticket. Can use the lounge of the first airline (until initial departure) if you are a member of one of their programs that grants lounge access (or is some instances pay for the privilege as a one off) and the second airlines lounge at the stopover point (subject to the same conditions of entry).
(LCC) A “much” cheaper ticket.
Option 1 : A more expensive ticket.
Option 2 :
(Alliance) Until returned or declared lost, rerouted or temporarily misplaced baggage will not normally have any compensation awarded. Accommodation and/or food for delayed flights will most likely not be provided if you are moved to a new flight. Some airlines will make you pay a (usually) small nominal processing fee to change your flight time.
(Codeshare) As with Alliance, until returned or declared lost, rerouted or temporarily misplaced baggage will not normally have any compensation awarded. Accommodation and/or food for delayed flights will most likely not be provided if you are moved to a new flight. Some airlines will make you pay a (usually) nominal processing fee to change your flight time.
(Unrelated Airlines / Other) A cheaper ticket. until returned or declared lost, rerouted or temporarily misplaced baggage will not normally have any compensation awarded. Accommodation and/or food for delayed flights will most likely not be provided if you are moved to a new flight. Some airlines will make you pay a processing fee to change your flight time.
(LCC) It is an LCC. Expect smaller leg room, having to pay for food and drinks, long toilet lines and stringent baggage weight checks for all of your baggage (and exorbitant fees for any excess). If you miss your flight, the connecting LCC will usually make you buy a whole new ticket. LCC’s do not usually have lounges and any delays you may face will usually have no compensation at all awarded. Lost baggage is still subject to the same rules as other bigger airlines concerning baggage loss and as such until returned or declared lost, rerouted or temporarily misplaced baggage will not normally have any compensation awarded.
As said, it depends on you if you want to take the risk for 500 EUR. But the risk with self-connected flights (=two tickets) also depends on the exact situation.
I did this in May 2015 with a stopover in Dubai (DXB), but I was sure to get a free 30 day visa on arrival in Dubai if I’d need it (I did), and I had planned with a lot of stopover time. In case of getting “stuck” in Dubai, I would simply stay there for some days in a hotel, since I had no time pressure either. In that situation, the “risk” was acceptable to me, and I’d do it again to beat crazy airline fares 🙂
Your case may be different. But here are some options to help you minimize the risk on self-connected flights:
Another thing about transfer visas is that some countries technically require you to get one for longer stays within the transfer area (“airside” in the airport). Longer than 14 hours in one case I remember. But since this is hard to be checked in practice, you could take the risk and stay for a bit longer without this if you are not eligible for a transfer visa. Your risk, of course.
Usually, when you purchase two flights, A->B
and B->C
separately you will have to collect your checked-in baggage at B
and re-check it for the flight to C
. This almost invariable requires you to have the right to enter the country that B
is in.
There are exceptions to this, some airlines have interline agreements (notably if part of the same ‘alliance’). Even then the check-in staff at A
may (erroneously) refuse to check your baggage through leaving you with few good options.
You can, of course, travel with carry-on only. That then raises the question of whether the airline that operates flight A->B
will allow you to board the flight if you can not legally enter B
. You can certainly show the onward ticket, but it will be a risk. Even if the staff is supposed to allow you to board, they may (erroneously) refuse you.
And that’s not even getting into the headache of what happens if the first flight is delayed and you miss the second one. Buying a new ticket at the last minute at B
either onward to C
or back home to A
may be hugely expensive.
You have to weigh the security of a single ticket against that 500 euro saving. With a single ticket you will get to C
(even if it is a day or two late) at no extra cost. With two tickets there are all the risks discussed.
Is 500 euro worth risking it? Only you can answer that.
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