Can I swim to Litle Hjartøya from Nyholmen, Norway?

Can I swim to Litle Hjartøya from Nyholmen, Norway?

8/24/2020 9:15:39 PM

In downtown Bodø, a couple of hundred meters away from your planned swim, is Bodø Radio, one of the headquarters of the Maritime Radio (contact page).

They may be able to assist you in several ways:

  1. They have the ability to reach out to boats in the area, warning boats about the presence of a swimmer in the strait. This is the way of coordinating things with ship traffic, as everyone with a ship radio has "lytteplikt" (duty to listen). Announcements of unusual conditions relevant to ship traffic is routine.

  2. They may be able to tell you exactly why this is a bad idea, with more certainty than you are likely to find on some internet forum.

Not sure they will be thrilled about this project, but they will definitely like to be told in the case were you decide to go ahead with the idea anyway.

8/24/2020 8:58:22 PM

I cannot answer all points for you, but as I kayak frequently on bodies of water used by ships (also sometimes in narrow ship channels or in places like the Lorelei), here are some points to think about. They stay the same for both swimmers and small boats, so they are relevant even if you decide to rent a kayak or canoe. And one specifically for swimmers: due to the way the water moves, you will spend more energy to cover the same distance in running water than in a pool, reducing your effective radius.

Ships

It is certain that they will not see you. A cargo ship of the river type is huge, an ocean going one is humungous. The first deck is several stories above the water, the captain’s booth is at the highest point far in the back, and the ship body spans a long distance before the booth. This means that, when the captain looks out of the booth, he cannot see anything a few hundred meters in front of the ship, because it is in the ship’s own "shadow".

"sight shadow" of a ship

For river ships, this "shadow" is several hundred meters long. You are hidden from view long before your head becomes large enough to be seen.

But the even bigger problem: avoiding being hurt by a ship is very different from avoiding being hurt by a car. One danger is being run over – this is almost impossible for a single-unit ship, but apparently can happen with a tug-and-barge combination. With the "standard" ship, what happens is that you pass it at what you thought is a safe distance – and then you get sucked by its stern current and into the house-sized propellers. If you avoid this, you can get caught in the waves following the ship – it can happen that a 1000 ton wave throws you right onto a spur dyke (I’ve heard that this causes several injuries each year on the Rhine).

Sport boats

I don’t know what it is like in the area there, but note that small "fun" boats might be worse than the very large ships. The size of the waves depends not on the size of the boat, it depends on its speed – if you get passed by a 60 kmh boat (and if it is loaded with boys showing off to shrieking girls, you can only hope it will pass you) you will be bobbing on some high waves long after it’s gone.

Port area

Somebody wrote that this area is a port. Around a port entrance, you have two currents meeting, and there are many structures built underwater. This creates quite weird currents right where you wouldn’t expect them, and makes it very dangerous to enter the port as a swimmer. I have seen newbies in kayaks capsize in smaller currents.

Also, it might be that even where swimming in a given body of water is legal, swimming through a port entrance is illegal, so make sure if there are ordinances about that. Also, you might go there and see a large sign telling you that the port is private and only allows entry of ships scheduled to land there – in that case, technically even entering with a kayak will be an offense.

Water temperature

As mentioned in other answers, it is an important thing to consider. Somebody commented that people can train to spend time in very cold water, but without such training, hypothermia is a very real risk. The safety rule I have been taught is:

If you fall into water below 15 C, you have about as many minutes as the temperature until you become incapacitated.

"Incapacitated" here means that you won’t be able to move in a coordinated fashion and will need a rescuer even for something as easy as climbing onto a boat or raft. If you read German, you can see details here.

So take care, either as a swimmer or as a paddler – if you have never paddled before and cannot read currents and/or have never passed ships, take an experienced buddy with you.

8/26/2020 3:28:57 AM

To add to the "bad idea" suggestions, I looked up the traffic density on marinetraffic.com and got this result (unfortunately the highest zoom at which it draws the density maps):

Shipping density map

Converting the units of the red areas to ships per 0.005 sq km per hour (crudely dividing by hours in a year) gives about 2.5 ships per 70 x 70 metre square per hour, which will be an underestimate for multiple reasons: small boats used by locals aren’t counted, and presumably you’ll be doing this during daylight and the ship density will be higher then.

It’s probably too far away to be relevant, but note that the airport there shares facilities with an active military airbase, so the authorities might be a little more stringent on people doing relatively unusual things to get places which people don’t usually go.

8/24/2020 7:33:45 PM

Just chiming in as a local that the area is frequented by not just ships with professional equipment and captained by professionals but also by many locals out for a quick fishing trip, leisurely drive, or, in rare cases, quick trips using small fast craft. These are unlikely to notice a single swimmer with no marker.

(As an aside, the sides of Litle Hjartøya are in many places too steep to get out of the water without climbing. I can’t recall this exact area, but I believe most of that side of the island is sheer rock.)

A much more sensible option would be to rent a small boat in Bodø, or to charter someone to take you there and back again. If you have some time you could advertise in the regional newspaper, or if you are in the region I would simply ask around the harbour.

If you’re instead looking for a swimming challenge there are plenty of beautiful areas with or without small islands in the vicinity:

  • Mjelle, a popular swimming and leisure spot.
  • Sørfjorden in Mistfjorden, part of the new Sjunkhatten national park.
  • Vatnvatnet, except for the north-eastern arm marked "Heggmoen skytefelt", an army training ground.

Another option would be to take the "hurtigbåten" to any of several islands nearby.

8/24/2020 7:53:39 AM

Having worked as a boat pilot for a dive center, I have to agree with @Arthur’s Pass answer. You must understand that is is really hard to spot someone swimming in the water, you will be hidden behind any small wave. Also, the bigger the boat, the less the pilot looks out for things like swimmers, especially in an area where there is usually no swimmers.

Again, as said Arthur, the might not be able to avoid you. The bigger the ship, the harder it is to maneuver precisely.

I have to strongly recommend you not to take that swim. Remember boats have propellers under their hull that can shred you down to pieces.

8/24/2020 1:37:00 AM

This looks to be a somewhat foolhardy idea. Aside from the legality (Tor-Einar Jarnbjo thinks it’s legal) there are some practical considerations:

  • The point you’ve marked appears to be at one end of a working port and is quite possibly privately owned. A look around on Street View shows that that area is monitored by CCTV, so you’re likely to be interrupted by security.
  • The water’s edge is actually a quay several metres above the water. You might be happy to jump down but how will you climb back up?
  • 270m is a narrow channel for ships. Even if they see you there’s likely not much they can do to avoid you.
  • Currents – narrow channels are notorious for them. Tidal currents can reach several knots – you’d need to check this specific location. You might make it across at slack tide, but then it’s a six hour wait to return.
  • Water temperature – that island is above the Arctic Circle. The water will be cold. If you’re unprotected, cold water can kill you in minutes.

My thoughts: If you really need to visit a small rocky uninhabited island just off the Norwegian coast, take a boat.

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